Confessions of an Optimist: Publishing mogul Stephen Rubin on why he remains cheerful - even if 85% of books could have been written by a chatbot

In this KEEN ON episode, Andrew talks to former publishing mogul (Bantam, Doubleday, Transworld, Henry Holt & Simon & Schuster) Stephen Rubin, author of WORDS AND MUSIC, about why he remains optimistic about the future of the book business - even though , he acknowledges, 85% of published books could have been written by a chatbot

ABOUT STEPHEN RUBIN: Stephen Rubin joined Bantam Books in 1984 after a decade-plus career in journalism. Named president and publisher of Doubleday in 1990, he remained there until 2009, interrupted by a three-year stint in London as chairman of Transworld Publishers. He served as president and publisher of Henry Holt until 2020, and currently he is a consulting publisher for Simon & Schuster. Rubin sits on the board of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music and is the founder of the Stephen and Cynthia Rubin Institute for Music Criticism.

ABOUT ANDREW KEEN: Name as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.