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Episode 2032: Natalie Foster on how the arc of the 21st century American moral universe is bending toward justice

Foster, author of THE GUARANTEE, gets inside the fight for America's next economy
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Finally some good news for progressive Americans. According to Natalie Foster, whose new book The Guarantee is out on April 23, Americans are about to get the economy they deserve. In The Guarantee, Foster gets inside the what she describes as “the fight” for our economic future and discovers the seeds of an American post neo-liberalism. This “New New Deal” began, she says, in the depths of the Great Recession of 2008, and matured during the COVID years when the government took financial responsibility for tens of millions of Americans affected by the pandemic. And now, she argues, both Trump and Biden are committed to an America in which the US state, rather than the market, determines the economic fate of its citizenry. “Something imaginable” is happening, she promises. I hope she’s right.


Natalie Foster is the author of “The Guarantee” (April 2024, The New Press), and is president and co-founder of the Economic Security Project, a network dedicated to advancing a guaranteed income in America and reining in the unprecedented concentration of corporate power. She is a senior fellow at the Future of Work Initiative, an initiative of the Aspen Institute Economic Opportunities Program. Foster served as digital director for President Obama’s Organizing for America and the Democratic National Committee. She built the first digital department at the Sierra Club and served as the deputy organizing director for MoveOn.org. She’s launched and run several successful progressive startups, and she has been awarded fellowships at the Institute for the Future, Rockwood Leadership Institute, and New America California. She is a board member of the California Budget and Policy Center, Higher Ground Labs, Liberation in a Generation, and Next River.


Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.

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