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I had a difficult time listening to this podcast. Andrew Keen's contrarian questioning seemed intended to minimize Mr. Pack's correct assertions about the dangers of another Trump presidency to the world and the U.S. Along with what I believe was unwarranted criticism of Kamala Harris's policy positions as too vague, such skepticism of the damage Trump is capable of doing to our Constitutional order and rule of law. is naive. Trump is riling up working class Americans with lies and false promises. All I have to do is imagine an administration filled with the likes of Bannon, Miller, Vance, Musk and ."Polio in every Pot" RFK Jr. to recognize the not at all vague consequences of Trump's oligarchic authoritarian rule (think Supreme Court) And yes, Trump is a fascist.

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